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Agree?</p><p>And since you&#39;re a fan also some more questions please? (rewrote this a bit)</p><p>Here&#39;s what I&#39;d ask in a few ways, so you can see what I&#39;m getting out (no hate in asking)...</p><p>1. How do you or RMS think computer-only ways (or even computer-first ways) are going to get us to what is a human mentality or psychological problem where humans need to help humans understand it (not just 1 way videos either)</p><p>( so he&#39;s done great work but without looping more people into HUMANity and more meaning between us, how does that go beyond repeating and people never gettign it sometimes? )</p><p>Aren&#39;t users the problem or won&#39;t they be the main problem left after all the software is perfected?... i.e. there&#39;s limits to computing right in social setting? And even with perfected software it&#39;s the mentality of the people like a <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/therapy\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>therapy</span></a> needed. To help hold their hand? Even with answer some people just can&#39;t make jump or feels too alone so need <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/assistants\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>assistants</span></a> to <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/guide\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>guide</span></a> them. <br /><a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/support\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>support</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/handholding\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>handholding</span></a></p><p> (and if not him then his fans doing the hard work with his nod as a kind of effort of mutual support at lower levels he can&#39;t / might not want to reach (which I see him as almost actively blocking) as he could a run test or two and build trust between people instead of keeping the distance (and yes all is risk but distance kills everything between people and worst in the long-term).</p><p>2- Have you seen his account? It&#39;s just an echo of Guardian links all the way down. Screenshot here:<br /><a href=\"https://qoto.org/@freeschool/113539022106836524\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"invisible\">https://</span><span class=\"ellipsis\">qoto.org/@freeschool/113539022</span><span class=\"invisible\">106836524</span></a></p><p>I mean that&#39;s what famous people do I guess, 1-way stuff and echoing what is already out there ON MAINSTREAM NEWS?... </p><p>BUT STILL devise a method or something with the lemmings... test people out, half-endorse and then ditch them reasonably after testing IF there is a reason. Most of us are amazing once you find things in us or see our offerings...</p><p>3- What is freedom when almost all of us are working alone or for <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/State\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>State</span></a>?</p><p>To ignore your fans and not use them is a blunder or missed opportunity in a &#39;movement&#39; - but also not feed and use your fans seems part of it you must do...<br />AGREE? (RMS doing all the work mostly or only those head down in computers - is that enough?)</p><p>4 - Have I miss something new about RMS relative to this people work, let me know.</p><p>Summary - In whatever way, I think we can patch ourselves together... Helps if &#39;head of the snake&#39; directs a bit...</p><p>Thanks - I wrote this fast (and re-edited it few hours later it simplify it) - I don&#39;t mind if you write with speed either just to get back to me.</p><p>A &quot;movement OF PEOPLE?&quot;/ plenty of space to test / improve ?</p><p>Has <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/RMS\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>RMS</span></a> has quite measurable reached limits? Can we see evidence of it?</p><p>It&#39;s like those politicians that avoid &quot;we the people&quot; in actually doing things with a bit of their authoritative / educated help... and talking about it constantly.</p><p><a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/support\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>support</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/handholding\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>handholding</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/distributing\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>distributing</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/work\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>work</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/interaction\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>interaction</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/helpdesk\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>helpdesk</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/p2p\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>p2p</span></a></p><p>Thanks again</p>", "contentMap": { "en": "<p>TL;DR.<br />Few questions around RMS and working with actual people as a movement (so people and their mentality worked on personally - not just computers and from a distance)...</p><p><span class=\"h-card\"><a href=\"https://mastodon.social/@jxself\" class=\"u-url mention\">@<span>jxself</span></a></span> <span class=\"h-card\"><a href=\"https://mastodon.xyz/@rms\" class=\"u-url mention\">@<span>rms</span></a></span><br />So people and their mentality need to be worked on more personally I think - not just computers anymore and from a distance the mostly-computer work has it&#39;s limits... Agree?</p><p>And since you&#39;re a fan also some more questions please? (rewrote this a bit)</p><p>Here&#39;s what I&#39;d ask in a few ways, so you can see what I&#39;m getting out (no hate in asking)...</p><p>1. How do you or RMS think computer-only ways (or even computer-first ways) are going to get us to what is a human mentality or psychological problem where humans need to help humans understand it (not just 1 way videos either)</p><p>( so he&#39;s done great work but without looping more people into HUMANity and more meaning between us, how does that go beyond repeating and people never gettign it sometimes? )</p><p>Aren&#39;t users the problem or won&#39;t they be the main problem left after all the software is perfected?... i.e. there&#39;s limits to computing right in social setting? And even with perfected software it&#39;s the mentality of the people like a <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/therapy\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>therapy</span></a> needed. To help hold their hand? Even with answer some people just can&#39;t make jump or feels too alone so need <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/assistants\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>assistants</span></a> to <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/guide\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>guide</span></a> them. <br /><a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/support\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>support</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/handholding\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>handholding</span></a></p><p> (and if not him then his fans doing the hard work with his nod as a kind of effort of mutual support at lower levels he can&#39;t / might not want to reach (which I see him as almost actively blocking) as he could a run test or two and build trust between people instead of keeping the distance (and yes all is risk but distance kills everything between people and worst in the long-term).</p><p>2- Have you seen his account? It&#39;s just an echo of Guardian links all the way down. Screenshot here:<br /><a href=\"https://qoto.org/@freeschool/113539022106836524\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\"><span class=\"invisible\">https://</span><span class=\"ellipsis\">qoto.org/@freeschool/113539022</span><span class=\"invisible\">106836524</span></a></p><p>I mean that&#39;s what famous people do I guess, 1-way stuff and echoing what is already out there ON MAINSTREAM NEWS?... </p><p>BUT STILL devise a method or something with the lemmings... test people out, half-endorse and then ditch them reasonably after testing IF there is a reason. Most of us are amazing once you find things in us or see our offerings...</p><p>3- What is freedom when almost all of us are working alone or for <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/State\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>State</span></a>?</p><p>To ignore your fans and not use them is a blunder or missed opportunity in a &#39;movement&#39; - but also not feed and use your fans seems part of it you must do...<br />AGREE? (RMS doing all the work mostly or only those head down in computers - is that enough?)</p><p>4 - Have I miss something new about RMS relative to this people work, let me know.</p><p>Summary - In whatever way, I think we can patch ourselves together... Helps if &#39;head of the snake&#39; directs a bit...</p><p>Thanks - I wrote this fast (and re-edited it few hours later it simplify it) - I don&#39;t mind if you write with speed either just to get back to me.</p><p>A &quot;movement OF PEOPLE?&quot;/ plenty of space to test / improve ?</p><p>Has <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/RMS\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>RMS</span></a> has quite measurable reached limits? Can we see evidence of it?</p><p>It&#39;s like those politicians that avoid &quot;we the people&quot; in actually doing things with a bit of their authoritative / educated help... and talking about it constantly.</p><p><a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/support\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>support</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/handholding\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>handholding</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/distributing\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>distributing</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/work\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>work</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/interaction\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>interaction</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/helpdesk\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>helpdesk</span></a> <a href=\"https://qoto.org/tags/p2p\" class=\"mention hashtag\" rel=\"tag\">#<span>p2p</span></a></p><p>Thanks again</p>" }, "attachment": [], "tag": [ { "type": "Mention", "href": "https://mastodon.social/users/jxself", "name": "@jxself@mastodon.social" }, { "type": "Mention", "href": "https://mastodon.xyz/users/rms", "name": "@rms@mastodon.xyz" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/therapy", "name": "#therapy" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/assistants", "name": "#assistants" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/guide", "name": "#guide" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/support", "name": "#support" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/handholding", "name": "#handholding" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/state", "name": "#state" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/rms", "name": "#rms" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/distributing", "name": "#distributing" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/work", "name": "#work" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/interaction", "name": "#interaction" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/helpdesk", "name": "#helpdesk" }, { "type": "Hashtag", "href": "https://qoto.org/tags/p2p", "name": "#p2p" } ], "replies": { "id": "https://qoto.org/users/freeschool/statuses/113687761524008726/replies", "type": "Collection", "first": { "type": "CollectionPage", "next": "https://qoto.org/users/freeschool/statuses/113687761524008726/replies?only_other_accounts=true&page=true", "partOf": "https://qoto.org/users/freeschool/statuses/113687761524008726/replies", "items": [] } } }